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  • Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 11:20 am #480191

    Yes, deep freezer lamb with unknown content .

    see thread “what can I do ? ”

    If you really think about what you eat , then how is it possible that food from NZ is cheaper than buying local ? :whistle:

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 1:16 pm #480197

    Being an inquisitive sort of person and not knowing much about export and import , I looked at google and came up with some stuff about lamb .

    95% of UK sheep meat exports ( lamb and mutton ) go to the EU .

    70%  ( 100k tonnes) imported sheep meat to the UK comes from New Zealand . The UK is the largest importer of NZ lamb in the EU.

    So with no trade deal with the EU and a new deal already being discussed between the UK and New Zealand , there will be a flood of cheap lamb on the UK market and the UK sheep farmers will loose their major export market .

    So the price paid to sheep farmers in France should go up ?

     

    12th June 2019 at 1:24 pm #480200

    I prefer NZ lamb personally, not saying UK or French lamb is bad. I find French lamb to be more fatty and more rich more often than not though that’s not intended as a sweeping criticism. NZ lamb is pretty constant in quality so I usually know what i’m going to get.

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 2:13 pm #480215

    I prefer NZ lamb personally, not saying UK or French lamb is bad. I find French lamb to be more fatty and more rich more often than not though that’s not intended as a sweeping criticism. NZ lamb is pretty constant in quality so I usually know what i’m going to get.

    Thought you found sheep boring ? :-)

    Sweeping statement : UK , French or NewZealand  .

    The probable reason for NZ lamb being constant is because of the climate and the sheep type  and the huge numbers that are bred.

    In the UK and France there are a lot more differing breeds and the season for raising lambs is a lot shorter.

    I would expect that French lamb is  more fatty because of the ” classification ” chart that sheep cooperatives force their members to raise their lambs to ( called “conformation” in French ). Also because  of the way that lamb is ” finished ” inside on cereals , which makes the lambs put on more fat ( plus they are shorn , which does the same )

    I would say that you can’t get much better lamb than grass-fed bio lamb from the Limousin! :yahoo:

    You may order online , but we don’t deliver ! :-)

    Messy Brexit looks on the books ?

     

     

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 3:05 pm #480219

    Try the lamb from Sisteron in Provence, or from the sheep that feed on the salt marshes around Le Mont St Michel. Never eaten lamb from N.Z that has got close to the lovely taste of those.
    Sorry, Deboer, never to my knowledge tasted lamb from the Limousin…

     

     

     

    12th June 2019 at 4:26 pm #480226

    Quite tasty Roger but rather ‘fatty’ at times.

    I prefer leaner meat but each to their own.

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 6:18 pm #480228

    I often wonder why the UK imports so much NZ lamb, and when you say, Chris, “The probable reason for NZ lamb being constant is because of the climate and the sheep type  and the huge numbers that are bred. In the UK and France there are a lot more differing breeds and the season for raising lambs is a lot shorter.”, you answered some of my questions. I found other answers, though – despite the blog post being from 2013, the theory’s still as good.

    In our Intermarché the other day we saw Australian and New Zealand onions for sale! Can’t see the sense in that.

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 6:20 pm #480232

    The fat on the edges can be cut off (after being used in the cooking of course), never noticed the fat elsewhere, Pete?

    12th June 2019 at 6:56 pm #480233

    True enough Roger but the ‘richness’ can’t really be changed.

    12th June 2019 at 6:56 pm #480234

    It does seem odd that the French are importing onions from OZ & NZ, whatever next? It’s enough to make one weep! ;-)

    I hate fatty Lamb, it’s not a meat I buy very often and can be expensive. Deboer, how much do you sell yours for?

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 8:28 pm #480277

    Talking of meat I found this very interesting reading. It seems artificial meat substitutes are the future. Good news as will mean an end to the cruelties and pollution involved in intensively farmed meat.

    Wonder what the effect would be for Brittany who supplies most of France’s pork? Lots of repercussions for the farming industry in general I would think…

    12th June 2019 at 8:49 pm #480287

    Following on from what Jazzy has just posted,  I recently came across this new initiative.

    https://www.dw.com/en/bangladesh-builds-floating-gardens-to-fight-climate-change/g-18912481

    I think this topic however, now deserves a thread of it’s own.

    Anyone care to jump in and do it?

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 9:29 pm #480290

    Deboer, how much do you sell yours for?

    €10/kilo

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 9:35 pm #480291

    Talking of meat I found this very interesting reading. It seems artificial meat substitutes are the future. Good news as will mean an end to the cruelties and pollution involved in intensively farmed meat.

    yeah Jazzy , but it’s a bit like Teresa May’s , ” neutral carbon ” in 2050 !  Pure politics to keep the people happy . Who believes that at the present rate of environmental damage there will be anything left to feed artificial meat to ?

    Stop eating so much meat and just buy ” good meat ” for the last few years before the deluge ! :-)

     

    Anonymous
    12th June 2019 at 9:40 pm #480292

    Back to topic .

    Now all those wondrous Tory wannabe PMs are starting picking holes in each other . It’s getting messy ! :yahoo:

    Anonymous
    13th June 2019 at 1:51 pm #480366

    That’s really interesting, gleaner. I’ve started a separate thread – ‘Farming for the future’. (Perhaps should have added ‘- if there is one’ for Deboer’s benefit 😂)

    Anonymous
    13th June 2019 at 9:59 pm #480469

    ‘ course there is a future Jazzy , I just think it may be a bit different than most  people expect !

    Rory Stewart is the man the UK needs , he seems ( seems) the only candidate for PM that talks sense ?

    13th June 2019 at 10:23 pm #480474

    Well, Esther McVey is out; that is good news, chiefly because she promised to sack all remainers from cabinet.  When one considers the referendum result (which itself is years old; older than the last election) was almost a 50:50 split, that means she would have been happy to ignore the views of half those who voted.  That just isn’t healthy, whether you agree with them or not.

    Andrea Leadsome is also out; perhaps going out this early is divine retribution for 2016, when she implied she was the better candidate for PM than Theresa May because she could have children.  She investigated proroguing parliament whilst she was Leader of the Commons, but apparently this was just for ‘research’; she says she would not have done it.

    However, whilst these two have gone, others like Raab and Johnson remain.  Understandably from the perspective of British immigrants in France, myself included, who have a vested interest in a candidate who rejects no deal, Rory Stewart remains the favourite.  But even he yesterday voted against the motion in parliaement yesterday that might have prevented no deal, because it was tabled by Labour; even in the direst of straits, any Tory will put party above country.

    14th June 2019 at 8:02 am #480521

    I love the latest TV mugshots of backstabber gove, he looks like someone has just shoved a large pineapple up his bum.

    Oh I wish!    :yes:

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