Speed limits in towns
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10th January 2024 at 10:01 am #595236
I read this in the online missive from the connection (I know that some people don’t like the connection!) …. can anyone clarify because I’ve not heard about it from anywhere else.
Roads in residential areas without pavements are limited at 30km/h from January 1.
The speed limits for roads in such areas can only be higher if they have pavements with pedestrian guardrails and accessibility features for mobility impaired people.
I looked on here and can’t find anything about that – there are a couple of other items within the article, such as rental subsidy, which may be of interest
https://www.gouvernement.fr/actualite/ce-qui-change-au-1er-janvier-2024
Roads in residential areas without pavements are limited at 30km/h from January 1.
What defines a residential area? Within the entry exit signs of a town or village? does the pavement have to be both sides of the road?
All seems a bit vague
Our whole area here in rural Normandy is 30 kms…the entire village and surroundings…it generally works meaning that people drive carefully…with the exception of visiting Parisiens who never think rules apply to them.
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11th January 2024 at 1:22 pm #595314The speed limits in our small town are all now 30km. The mayor said people were not obeying the 50km speed limit so it is now 30km. There will be street furniture so that lorries and tractors will not be able to use one of the routes to make it safer for the residents and the lighting is to be improved. Currently there is little lighting after storm Ciaran
In our tiny hamlet/village ANY speed limit would be welcome, apart from the blanket 80 km/hr which is the only limit that applies.
And some cars and motos even exceeed that even though most of the village is on a long bend limiting the sight lines.
Presumably because the sign when entering the village isn’t the standard town/village sign – it’s black with white lettering.
In my village majority of the roads are subject to 30 Kph limits. This is a complete joke, nobody respects it and nobody enforces it. My house which is on a straight piece of road within the limited area is regularly passed at double or treble the limit all day, every day. Following a meeting with the Mairie with local residents some time ago regarding the excessive speed, nothing has been done except right in the centre of the village, two 20 Kph zones (13 mph) have been set up which are of course are treated with the same utter contempt as the 30. ……..Brilliant!
We rarely get more than 20 cars in a day pass, three of which are before 0600, maybe three lorries a week plus the bin men. Mme La Poste and a few tractors.
The only speedsters are delivery men taking short or long cuts and the artisans on their way to a job.
We don’t have long straight roads here …ours is a little cul de sac…
speed is a killer…maybe some sleeping policemen would slow them down?
Speed itself is not a killer – inappropriate speed in the wrong place at the wrong time can be.
The problem I see with french drivers all the time is that they do not have any semblance of hazard perception as taught in the UK.
That means anticipating developing hazards, – in France that means road junctions, crossroads, ronde points, passing parked cars etc etc
All driving in France seems to be about obeying rules, laws, signs, road markings – not thinking for yourself or other road users.
If you’ve got a spare few minutes view this video from the UK DVSA explaining developing hazards and you may see what I mean.
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That is not the only problem.
They seem unable to understand the differences in various changing conditions such as weather, visibility or hazards and view the speed limit as a target, often a minimum one.
During the week I was in my Camping car on a two carriageway road, visibility was good the roads were mostly dry but the temperature was minus 3 or so. I was doing 65 ish kph, I noticed a Tandem lorry emerging slowly from a turning ahead and eased off, the lorry wasn’t making much headway. We approached a wooded area and there was a right hand bend coming up.
My speed was about the same as the waggon when a flash BMW shot past me into the path of a van. He had no idea the lorry was in front of me and emergency stops were the order of the day.
Luckily no harm done but even a second or two later and he would not have made it.
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