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  • 16th November 2021 at 4:11 pm #563261

    For the record, I cannot read private messages. Administrators of other websites may be able to read their own members private posts. But I cannot, nor do I wish to.

    When a member complains about a PM sent by another member it is the reason that I cannot look at the whole exchange or sequence of events to check if the complaint is warranted. It would therefore become a he said this, she said that, situation.

    We continue to explore possible solutions.

    As I mentioned before, there will be an update in due course.



    16th November 2021 at 4:31 pm #563262

    <p style=”text-align: left;”>Apology accepted.</p>

    16th November 2021 at 5:12 pm #563263

    Future Vision said

    “When a member complains about a PM sent by another member it is the reason that I cannot look at the whole exchange or sequence of events to check if the complaint is warranted. It would therefore become a he said this, she said that, situation.”

    Why penalise the majority for the problems caused by a small minority ?

    16th November 2021 at 7:32 pm #563267

    Future Vision, with all due respect, I know a few Admins and every Forum has the facility to look at Private messages. OK you choose  not to but I am shocked you don’t know you have the ability on this forum to do so. If you don’t believe me, ask the previous owner. If the powers that be require you to show them, you have to show them. I congratulate you for not looking at private emails but it’s available to Admins and not illegal either.

    16th November 2021 at 7:41 pm #563268

    I’ve been ‘doing’ forums of all sorts for yonks just like many of us probably and whenever this kind of thing has occurred a copy of the offending PM(s) have been sent to the moderator who has then taken action ( or not). It’s happened to me often on French forums but mainly sporting forums  and the offender has either been warned or just booted out.

    This isn’t difficult to police, I can’t see what the fuss is about.

    16th November 2021 at 7:42 pm #563269

    Spurs supporter, Pete….. ;-)

    16th November 2021 at 7:54 pm #563271

    I think enough has been said on the subject…as Pete says….

    16th November 2021 at 8:47 pm #563275

    It’s worth a reminder that PM stands for Personal Message, not Private Message. That said, on phpBB forums, eg TNFF and France in Focus, moderators and Admin CANNOT access members’ PMs, unless they are forwarded from an individual member.

    16th November 2021 at 11:55 pm #563282

    As far as phpBB forums there is a way, this was on phpBB once.

    However, you can view them in phpBB without a MOD. In the ACP, you can change the user’s password, then log in as that user and view the PMs in the UCP. Resetting the password will be more difficult. You would have to have database access and have saved the hashed value before changing the password in the ACP. After you’re done, you could probably update the database with the original hashed password. Or, you could just send the user E-mail saying that a glitch in the board required you to reset their password.
    It depends on the software that is used, as already said phpBB has never included this as an option but all PMs are stored in the database so it’s entirely possible to view them from there. If I’m not mistaken I think there is also a MOD available to allow the admin to view them more easily.
    I won’t pretend to know what TNFF stands for. Nor do I know about France in Focus but I do know that the old Total France and an earlier edition of this Forum were tested with messages to catch out Admins, so shall we say some you can get read and some you can’t. Personally using emails is safer, unless your PM is insensitive.

    17th November 2021 at 12:01 am #563284

    Seagoon, please read this:




    17th November 2021 at 7:54 am #563306

    Ok so now they are personal private.

    fine by me.

    all the rest is way above my head…




    17th November 2021 at 8:05 am #563307

    TNFF  = the new French forum . A French forum which stopped a few months back taken over by..

    TOFF = the other French forum. Started by Vegemite Kid who used to be on this forum. Like TNFF, well run with the PM facility.

    PnP = A computer hardware which can detect and configure devices (I think!)

    17th November 2021 at 9:27 am #563308


    all too much

    Maybe I should BO

    I never worked out what LOL was….I thought it was Lots of love.

    17th November 2021 at 1:07 pm #563322

    Roger Wood said:

    What is wrong with emails? Private messaging is not actually “private” as it can be read by Admins.

    How do you propose giving your email address to someone, RW? By PM, I imagine, unless you’re happy to post your email address on an open forum.

    17th November 2021 at 1:17 pm #563323

    Yes by PM as I have done in the past.

    17th November 2021 at 5:56 pm #563327

    Roger Wood said:

    Yes by PM as I have done in the past.

    In which case, as they say in France, la boucle est bouclée: without a PM facility, ie the current state of things, members can’t exchange email addresses.

    17th November 2021 at 6:55 pm #563329

    But what has that got to do with me? et alors quoi ? ;-) :whistle:

    17th November 2021 at 9:05 pm #563332

    For the moment if something cropped up that you felt you could really help someone…you couldn’t get a private mail to them…

    alors…explications ! :good:

    17th November 2021 at 11:42 pm #563336

    Are you saying you wouldn’t help them on the Forum but only by PM? I don’t understand….

    18th November 2021 at 6:09 am #563338

    In the case of something private…Yes!

    sometimes it’s obvious that someone needs a private issues predominantly.


    18th November 2021 at 7:15 am #563339

    PMs helped me a lot when I lost my wife.

    A no brained for me.

    18th November 2021 at 10:53 am #563342

    Well you should all be aiming this problem at the person responsible and not me, for not having that facility on here.


    18th November 2021 at 11:35 am #563343

    I don’t believe I have directed anything at you….?

    so let things take their course…as they will.

    18th November 2021 at 12:35 pm #563344

    OK must have been another Marmite answering me….but there you go. All I’m saying is that asking me for an explanation is pointless, as firstly I am not personally worried about PM’s as such and your best bet is to get enough of you to petition Future Vision for the PM to be put on.

    18th November 2021 at 12:39 pm #563345

    I really can’t be bothered Roger. To me a PM facility is very handy and even necessary for any forum. If it’s not available I will go elsewhere, there’s plenty of choice.

    18th November 2021 at 12:55 pm #563346

    A petition is not necessary, I can see from some of the responses here the value some members place on PM’s.

    The issue will be discussed and a decission made next week.

    In the mean time it is unhelpful having certain members sniping and making negative comments at every opportunity.

    18th November 2021 at 1:08 pm #563347

    With the best will in the World I see no sniping or negativity, I see discussions and some people disagreeing but all very civil to my mind. It’s better than everyone sitting back and saying nothing I think, maybe I’m wrong…..

    18th November 2021 at 6:02 pm #563351

    I hope the other marmite has not stolen my pseudonym..

    read what I said…I have…nothing was directed at you Roger Wood…

    nothing was directed at anyone…it was general.


    18th November 2021 at 6:11 pm #563354

    If nobody says anything about what they don’t like about a forum, those in charge can be forgiven for thinking that nothing is wrong, until a point arrives where activity dwindles and they wonder what’s happened. This forum deserves to be used, and regularly, by as many people as possible, for whatever reasons; unfortunately, the current absence of standard online forum features will not convince many new users to stay and populate the site.

    18th November 2021 at 6:44 pm #563359

    Exactly Seagoon, well said.

    Apart from PMs a “quote” facility would make life a lot easier.

    The site as it is presently isn’t very ‘user friendly’ imo.

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