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  • 22nd November 2021 at 8:26 am #563516

    I was in Aldi on Saturday and spotted a Gigot of Lamb for 11 Euro with 30% off, I cant remember the last time we had Lamb due to it being so expensive. Yesterday got the oven up to temperature went to open the bag the Lamb was in and it was off !!!! the smell was awful I can still smell it now, so we had what we seem to have all the time CHICKEN :negative:

    22nd November 2021 at 8:59 am #563521

    Take it back!

    22nd November 2021 at 7:25 pm #563583

    Selling a gigot for €3.85 /kilo is criminal .

    Buy good French lamb , save up and pay a normal price . :-)

    Anonymous
    22nd November 2021 at 7:44 pm #563585

    What price per weight do you sell your lambs for, Deboer?

    22nd November 2021 at 8:04 pm #563587

    I sell to the cooperative , at the moment the price is €7.65/kilo carcase , it will go up in December .

    The same lamb will be sold in the Bio shop for €25/kilo ., it’s not the farmer that makes the most profit .

    I stopped selling “direct” two years ago , too much hassle.

     

    Anonymous
    22nd November 2021 at 8:40 pm #563590

    That’s a hell of a margin for the Bio shop compared to what you get paid.

    However, “save up and pay a normal price ” doesn’t take into account those who can’t save up and live on very little, with only occasional treats when the price is right. Unfortunately, it didn’t work in this case for Rusty.

    23rd November 2021 at 8:20 am #563597

    I agree , Seagoon , it depends on what your priorities are and how your budget is .

    We eat very little meat , even though we could eat a lot of lamb every day . Meat in large quantities is not good for you . A gigot is a treat for us too, it is 2.5 kilo of meat , enough for us for 4 meals.

    The difference between the farm price and shop price is not just the profit from the Bio shop.

    I sold lamb directly at €10/kilo , but after  transport , slaughter and butcher prices , the result was the same as when I sell live lambs to the cooperative and a lot less hassle.

    I very seldom sold bio lamb to Brits , they have  said it was too expensive and can get deepfreeze lamb a lot cheaper . :-)   You are what you eat .

     

     

    23rd November 2021 at 9:00 am #563602

    « You are what you eat »

    true…but for a lot of people the wallet is a very large consideration.

    I have to agree that a leg of lamb is a treat…we don’t eat so much meat anymore…but it’s my treat of choice!

    Its really sad for Rusty to get a bargain that wasn’t a bargain at all….I hope you at least complained to Aldi…they have a reputation to protect….and reduced should never mean rotten.

    As I had a plate of porridge for dinner last night…….I’m a plate of porridge !

    23rd November 2021 at 9:17 am #563605

    Most people do not realise that what they eat is important . Many ailments come from eating badly ( read with chemicals) produced food .

    Also, you can still feed your body without breaking the bank !

    The standard of ” meat and two veg ” is the cause  of some of the  problems that we are facing in the enviromental disaster that is heading our way. Just look at the over-laden tables in the christmas adverts .

    If everyone ate less meat , then their health would be a lot better and there would be a lot less pollution . There are many populations in the world that eat little or no meat at all.

    As far as that you are a plate of porridge, Diane ( I can call you that now , as you wrote it on the forum ) You are also sausage and cheap pork ! :yahoo:

     

    23rd November 2021 at 9:23 am #563608

    Under the belt…Deboer….you have a good memory.

    Cheap does not mean bad….

    Maybe stick to Marmite!

    23rd November 2021 at 10:39 am #563609

    I didn’t take it back the smell was so awful I couldn’t bear to take it in the car! we too are not great meat eaters prefer the veg to be honest :yes:

    23rd November 2021 at 10:46 am #563612

    I am part way through watching the Clarksons Farm series.

    It is enligtening and shows huge ammounts of grief and expense for very little reward not to mention the work.

     

    23rd November 2021 at 1:48 pm #563625

    Most housewives have years of shopping experience to help them with their buys….I count myself amongst them.

     

    23rd November 2021 at 1:50 pm #563626

    rusty
    23rd November 2021 at 10:39 am #563609
    I didn’t take it back the smell was so awful I couldn’t bear to take it in the car! we too are not great meat eaters prefer the veg to be honest

    Good for you rusty !

    I honestly believe that, as far as food is concerned , you get what you pay for .

    The reason that meat is cheap is because the poor animals have not been raised with respect for their well being , or probably in your case something had happened to the meat during transport .

    23rd November 2021 at 2:24 pm #563628

    It gets me how some get outraged at the ‘cruelty’ of Chinese meat markets but will happily eat an intensively reared cheap sausage.

    23rd November 2021 at 4:29 pm #563636

    @Jackie – I totally agree.  I feel sickened when I hear of people being delighted when pork is selling at 1.99 per kilo at the local supermarket.  My first thought is what horrendous conditions the poor animals must have been raised in to justify the ridiculously low retail price.  I much prefer to eat less, but better quality, meat.

    23rd November 2021 at 5:03 pm #563638

    There is a quotation for the price of a porc (here is the link for this week), for now the carcasse is 123.70€ for 100kg, then there is the margin (included the butcher cutting the meat etc…). It will be the same porc sold in a supermarket at 1.99€ or 7.50€. Supermarket don’t buy special porcs for promotion (only the cut will be not as good at it should be, less time spending on cutting the fat bits, bits of bones left, more money). If you want to buy good meat, you have to be able to source it, and look by yourself in which condition the animals are looked after.

    23rd November 2021 at 6:19 pm #563645

    Finished watching Clarkson’s Farm last week after a late start – absolutely brilliant as it showed the general public the perils of producing food in a way that was easily understood – and with a good dollop of humour to boot.

    People have an expectation that food will always be available to them at the cheapest cost regardless of what the returns might be for the producer.

    The Government (particularly in the UK)  seems intent that the country should principally be fed by imported produce as Trade Deals make better publicity than farmers going to the wall. The means by which this food is produced is given scant regard.

    Science has shown us that a better diet makes for a healthier body. Over the last fifty years or so, people have become increasingly reliant on processed food and even with the resultant obesity so obvious to see are prepared to do little to change.

    Eating well doesn’t have to be expensive. Vegetables are abundant and good value as, at the moment is white meat. The best food, fish, is expensive but this can be integrated within a diet of cheaper fresh produce.

    Producing red meat is an expensive business and should be viewed as a luxury – those producing it should be paid at a level where it is viewed as such by the public. Cheap Red meat is cheap for a reason and best avoided.

     

    23rd November 2021 at 7:01 pm #563649

    I have just put in an order for lamb and pork from a local farmer recommended by a friend in the form of 5-6kg parcels of various vacuum packed cuts ideal for the freezer. Bio outdoor raised meat-  Agneau Landes de Bretagne €16.50 kg and Porc Blancs de l’Ouest for €12.50 kg. I buy similar parcels of Limousin beef from another farmer 12kgs of which lasts us a long time…..

    Yes, more expensive than supermarket meat but welfare much better and I can make a little go a long way and view it as a treat and to be made the best of and respected rather than just protein to shovel down, very often in larger amounts than is good for them, which is what a lot of people have got into the habit of doing…

    23rd November 2021 at 7:02 pm #563650

    Babeth (56)
    23rd November 2021 at 5:03 pm #563638
    There is a quotation for the price of a porc (here is the link for this week), for now the carcasse is 123.70€ for 100kg, then there is the margin (included the butcher cutting the meat etc…). It will be the same porc sold in a supermarket at 1.99€ or 7.50€. Supermarket don’t buy special porcs for promotion (only the cut will be not as good at it should be, less time spending on cutting the fat bits, bits of bones left, more money). If you want to buy good meat, you have to be able to source it, and look by yourself in which condition the animals are looked after.

    Here in the Limousin at the moment the conventional pork carcase price is €1.4/ kilo ( paid to the farmer ) Organic pork is €3.6/kilo (paid to the farmer) . So there is a huge difference in the price of well raised meat compared to ” normal ” raised meat .

    Registered Organic farmers have to follow very clear rules with their animals ( I know ) . We are checked twice a year and have to pay for the privilage .

    I think everyone should pay a visit to a conventional pig farm , it will put you off eating pork.

    The main problem that I can see , is that the ” masses” have got used to eating a lot of cheap meat , so don’t want to change.

    I feel that they will have to .

     

     

     

     

    23rd November 2021 at 7:47 pm #563652

    The trouble is, it is not because you pay 7.50€ a kilo 2 porc chops in a supermarket, that it means it is good porc, I’ve seen it quite often, and it is not written anywhere that it is bio, the margin is just higher but the price is the same for the producer. That was my point.

    I’m pleased to know it is better checked than organic bananas (10 years ago, as I can’t witness how it is today – they were only checking papers at the time … at a great cost of course), but we can imagine that the control is much more difficult in Colombia than in France, maybe that is why we are talking about a république bananière …. :scratch:

    23rd November 2021 at 8:11 pm #563653

    I understood your point Babeth.

    I was discussing the difference between Certified Bio and so called Organic and Conventional .

    To get ” good” Pork , you have to rely on the certification , our lamb is certified by Ecocert and is sold with that stamp on it . I have seen lamb and pork being advertised as ” organic” that wasn’t , but the British farmer , just said it was and the British customers believed him .

    I don’t believe in Bio Bananas either  and slowly there is a mass market that is appearing that is very discutable to whether it is Bio or not .

    Another thing I can’t understand is , how they can pack Bio in plastic ! :unsure:

    There is a country not far from France that is starting to look like a banana republic . :whistle:

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