90 day rule maybe changing to 180 days. Your chance to be heard.

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  • 14th November 2023 at 3:34 pm #593250

    We have been contacted by a journalist from The Times who is looking for reaction to the above news.

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    Dear Sir / Madam, I am a journalist at The Times and I am looking to speak to Brits who own homes in France about the 90 day rule and how it has affected their life and to gauge their reaction to the news in the Telegraph this morning that a French senator has tabled an amendment to increase the limit to 180 consecutive days: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/property/second-homes/france-brexit-visa-rule-relax-british-second-homes/#:~:text=France's90dayvisarule,toalongstayvisa
    Would you or anyone on the site be willing to talk to me about this issue?
    Many thanks,
    Yours sincerely,
    Andrew Ellson

    14th November 2023 at 4:57 pm #593251

    Moi Will be happy…I’m happy for everyone who was affected…so unfair….

    14th November 2023 at 10:41 pm #593266

    If it’s 180 in 180 out it’s the same shit with a different wrapping. May help some may make it worse for others.

    Be interesting to see what proposals are being considered 🤔

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    15th November 2023 at 10:31 am #593271

    for us it makes no difference as we have our Carte de seujour. but we do have friends who are still UK based and for them it would be good to not have to calendar watch quite so much, but as Jamie says if it is just a rolling 180 in 360 (same as now, just longer), then I can see that it will not please everyone.

    but for those who like to come over in the spring for a long summer break it would be a lot easier. we have a friend who is coming to the end of renovating a property near us, and the 90/180 rule has slowed him down, as he could not get as much done in the spring/summer for the last few years. also he was  thinking of selling up, if he could not use it for 4 – 6 Month spells, maybe this will change his Mind ?

    Wonder if it would make property over here more attractive, and help the french property market ?

    Maybe the journalist should also speak to some immobliers ?

    15th November 2023 at 4:45 pm #593297

    The whole Brexit agenda and vote  was based on lies and fabrications. Any extension to the current restrictions must surely be a step in the right direction. It would be good for the homeowners, and good for the local French economy.

    15th November 2023 at 6:13 pm #593298

    Yeah. They increased my taxe fonciere by 60% ,to subsidise French resident home owners, and now ‘kindly’ want to get more money by ‘helping’ me to stay for longer and spend more money in the French economy. Excuse my mirth.😅😅

    15th November 2023 at 6:20 pm #593299

    I thought you’d be happy?

    apparently Spain is following suit…

    does mean longer holidays ! And for those renovating …I’m not sure how the 180 days will work…

     

    15th November 2023 at 7:26 pm #593300

    Happy????? You having a laugh 😅😅

    15th November 2023 at 7:40 pm #593301

    Looking at the news they aren’t talking about a fixed number of days ….just getting rid of the time limit.

    sorry …I thought you would be pleased…we none of us wanted Brexit…it was bound to place limitations on all sorts of things…at least the French recognize that they are punishing people who don’t deserve punishment.

     

    15th November 2023 at 8:07 pm #593303

    No. They’re taxing people to cover their financial short comings.

    15th November 2023 at 8:27 pm #593304

    Well that’s not just in France…I’m afraid governments everywhere are finding ways to tax those that they feel they can.

    Does that mean you’re not happy about the time spent in France being extended?

     

    15th November 2023 at 8:49 pm #593305

    I’m not interested. And I’m talking about how France is treating ‘me’- not what the rest of the world is doing re tax in the rest of the world.

    15th November 2023 at 9:44 pm #593306

    Ok moi…point taken..sorry ..i honestly thought people would be genuinely pleased…

     

    15th November 2023 at 10:16 pm #593307

    Getting rid of the time limit would be a great start and I would spend much more money in France, though sadly as a non European I will still have the problem of getting a work poo remit as a nomadic traveller. For years I have paid my way and now they may have made it impossible for me to do so.  They need to.bring in a new system for people like me or bring back in the old system.with the recepisse de consignation for British travellers.

    Damn that B word. 🤬

    15th November 2023 at 10:18 pm #593308

    Saying that, I am building up.a clientele in the UK and rediscovering Wales so am.now finding positives in my 90 days out.  Always a silver lining if we look hard enough ♥️

    16th November 2023 at 9:02 am #593309

    Absolutely, life is too short to be bitter and angry, or to have your life dictated to by the whims of politicians/idiots, you just have to work around these things.

    16th November 2023 at 9:31 am #593310

    We should be angry at Brexit…all these rules are a direct result of leaving Europe ..

     

    16th November 2023 at 10:32 am #593311

    Anger and hate are not good for the soul and stop us being our best selves and from feeling happy and serene.

    I dislike brecshit but life goes on.

    If you can take action about changing it then do it with a clear mind and a pure heart then step back and enjoy your life. Can’t let those idiots spoil it for you x

    16th November 2023 at 10:34 am #593312

    a rolling 180 out of 360 is no different to how it was before brexit, if stay more than 6 Months then technically you are domicile in France, I suspect a lot of “ex-pats” were bending the rules and over staying, it was just that the as there was no real recording of entry / exit it would have been hard to enforce

    I do  think some people (Jamie, Moi et al) have been hit badly by the fiasco that was brexit, all we can do is hope that over coming years a more sensible government will prevail, and attitudes will soften on all sides

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    16th November 2023 at 11:23 am #593313

    Tax Foncière is based on the rental value of a property. The rental values were recently reviewed and I think some peoples properties may have been revalued.  If people bought a hovel and turned it into a smart residence but did not complete the relevant documentation for the tax office on completion it’s possible they have been paying a much lower rate of tax than they should have been. It would appear that for people who have been paying an appropriate amount of tax on their property this years increase is about 7%

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